CommentWe are picked up from Bus station and taken to a Motel (Low budget Motel). You are bussed back in forth to school in a school bus, packed like sardines. We have to provide our own food 3 meals, if you are one of the lucky ones that have a motel near a store/ restaurant or what have you, if you are not, good luck on getting any food. I saw a lot of hungry people.The first day of class we have to give our 50.00, then we go through our physical and then talk to a cop for our back ground check (which should have been done before we even got that far to school), if you pass all that, you then have 4 days of class room time, then 4 days of back up maneuver's, then 4 days of road driving, then a test, then 4 weeks maybe longer (they don't tell you that)of on the road driving with a trainer, that may or may not have a great deal of road time themselves, you then have to come back, take a test, and maybe then you are hired and get paid for your 4 + weeks on the road. If not hired do you get paid? you then have another over the road training phase 2, which consists of 8 weeks (or more) then you come back are tested, then maybe if your lucky, you can get a company truck to team with, or Lease (bad idea). All this time you still aren't making very much. I Spoke to a few Lease drivers that were Turing their trucks in, because they only received 33.00 for a month or was 180.00 in the negative,( all this once the lease, insurance, maintenance, fuel was paid.). No home time, you have to have that truck going all the time, to make money for C R England. This is America right, how can a company get by with this slavery?
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| 1. Written by Tom, on 12-01-2010 09:53 I am so glad I researched this. I was wondering why they never call me after submitting several applications. |
| 2. Written by dave, on 25-12-2009 16:24 Most of the complaints above are true but exagerated somewhat.I am finishing my 2nd phase and havent seen home sinse I started class in october.Do NOT lease,less u wanna work for almost free.My triner is gonna turn in his truck.Dont go CR England,find another company.If your allready in suck it up,get your certificate and run |
| 3. Written by withheld, on 20-11-2009 00:49 their facility is nice in salt lake city as to be expected by the way they steal your money. this is a scam!!! I arrived on sunday night at 1 am only to find no more rooms available in their dorms.I thought we were expected but no one seemed to know we were arriving so we were shuttled to hotel by 3 am we were finally in our rooms only to get up at six, what a joke should of just stayed on the couch would of gotten more rest. Monday morning class started with about one hundred students, paid 50 dollars filled out paperwork, some did the physical/drug test. class got out about 6 pm and we all proceeded to collect our luggage and check into the dorm. Well what a fiasco, our class with about 100 students plus a bunch of people from the class before all scrambling trying to get a bed, once again shuttled to hotel, while waiting in parking lot in the cold for almost two hours, I noticed a bus pull up and drfop off people to the facility, i thought it was a city bus, no it was a crengland bus and they just proceeded to park it. Why didn't they use it to bring all of these students to the hotel instead of making us go 9 at a time in a hotel van shuttle. Seemed like they didn't care and the whole place seemed hightly unorgannized. Getting off property was better than staying at the nazi prison camp. Got to my room and my roommate said he was out at 845 am bus and I should follow. He was reading my mind and I quickly bought a bus ticket to get the heck away from that place. I don;t know what is going on in that place other than to say that its a truck sales/truck schooling scam to get your money. I could go on for hours so I'll say all that you read is true and run as fast as you can away from this place, and if you think you got some kind of job this is not a job its a way to sell you a truck and get charged 3000 for school to get a cdl on false pretenses, the cdl manual clearly states that you must be a Utah resident to get cdl license in utah. beware beware beware.thank god i got out when i did. |
| 4. Written by Mike K, on 19-11-2009 16:50 STAY AWAY FROM THEM. feel free to contact me i will give you any info you want. I was a fresh off the bus student went through the school and even leased a truck. |
| 5. Written by Steve, on 14-11-2009 19:00 CR England CDL school SCAM My experience at the CR England CDL School was like something right out of the “Grapes of Wrath” movie. Times are hard; and all of the people I met at the school (from all over the country) were clearly desperate. CR England is a big corrupt company with an operation in a small probably corrupted Texas town, exploiting the poorest and most desperate people; people who are just looking for honest work. A few years back I was injured in an auto accident and was limited on my ability to walk. I thought that perhaps I could still drive for a living so I went to school at my local community college and got my CDL. However, I soon found that driving jobs are very hard to get into. After reviewing CR England’s professional looking web site, I applied for a job with their company. The web site said that you had the option of being a truck leasing operator or a second seat driver. Because I knew I needed some over the road experience and I applied to be a second seat driver. Soon after submitting my application a recruiter named Anthony (Tony) left a message on my voice mail saying my application had been approved and cheerfully said “WELCOME to CR England MY FRIEND”. When I called him back, he said that I just needed to come to Texas and go through a one week refresher course that would cost $50.00. Then, after a drug test I would be put to work as a “second seat driver”. He said that they would provide a bus ticket to Texas and a hotel room for me while I took the course. I was so happy; I really believed I had a job. Upon arriving in Duncanville Texas, I learned that the “hotel” was used primarily by CR England and JB Hunt for their “training” program. The hotel was more like a boarding stable; very dirty (no towels/sheets) with 4 guys to one room. It is located in a VERY bad area (I witnessed a hold up first night), and people asking for money as you walked down the street; so you did not want to walk anywhere. The only restaurant in the hotel was VERY expensive and the food was horrible. The next morning when I got to the school I was told I had to pay $100.00 instead of $50.00 for an “administration fee” immediately. (That paid for my bus ticket, so CRE was now out nothing for me). I tried to explain to someone that I had just taken a CDL and I did not need to take their full course, only the refresher; but they made me pay the $100.00 and shuffled me aside as they began an interrogation program. The interrogators (reported to be some of the local police) were rude and abrasive and VERY intimidating. There assured us that they could tell if we were lying about anything by our body language and threaten to put us out on the street if they even perceived you were lying to them. During the interrogations they asked inappropriate, personal questions. The people who left were told they could not have their money back. Note: I had already passed a background test. After the interrogations, we were given forms to fill out that we did not get time to read; we were told that they were just compliance and schooling contracts and that if we did not sign them we would be made to leave immediately (everything was rush, rush). I again told them that I had just been through a CDL class (I paid $3,000.00 for) and did not need to take their course, but was told I still needed to sign ALL the forms anyway. We barley got time to sign the papers when suddenly we were pounced upon by CRE high pressure salesmen who were pushing everyone to sign contracts to lease their trucks. They were very vague about the terms and did not seem to want to answer questions. I wanted to look over the contracts but was also told I could not take the contracts with me to read them later. That night we were sent home with a HUGE test that we were told we had to have done by the next day. Four of us started on them immediately and worked on them until 1:00 AM but had to quit uncompleted because we had to be up the next morn at 4:00 am to get on the bus for school. Hungry sleep deprived, intimidated and pressured…classic break down techniques use in brain washing. That morning as I was waiting to get on the bus, I noticed a guy with his bags packed and asked him why he was leaving. He said that he had completed the CDL program and was told that CR England would be sending a truck for him to be a second seat driver (he did NOT sign a truck lease), but that after a week the truck never came for him. He said he had waited another week and called CR England over and over but they would not return his calls. Finally, after the third week of waiting, they told him that he was not even in their system and he needed to leave the hotel. He said this place is a total scam, get out while you can. I quickly called a friend and asked her to do an I-net search on CR England under SCAM and sure enough she got MANY, MANY hits. She told me what people were saying…that it is a SCAM and to get out of there ASAP. It cost me $300.00 to get out of their, but thankfully I had the money to do so. I have heard that many who would not sign a lease, were just thrown out of the boarding stable onto the street in a very bad area with no place to go and no way to get back home. Thankfully I did not sign a lease for I have come to find that the CRE contracts bind you to a VERY costly obligation. Their truck lease program is a trap. For space sake I wont elaborate but Google CR England and CR England Scam and read the forums and MANY complaints. You will hear from the drivers who have been ripped off in numerous and unbelievable ways through their leasing program. Many have even been forced into bankruptcy by CR England. Bottom Line: DON”T DO IT!!! Another tactic reported from those who would NOT sign a lease is that they were suddenly found to have a dirty drug test, often AFTER they had completed their school…four weeks later. However, the drug tests are done the first day of the school and the results are available immediately; so CR England at least got their tuition and interest out of them. CRE had no intention of hiring very many as second seat drivers. This CDL MILL is just another of many SCAM programs that CRE has fine tuned to con people. One poster put it very well “They know exactly what they are doing, and just how to attempt to blackmail you into servitude. They mind screw with people all day long. It's pathetic that this is the only way that they can keep people for any length of time…” Now, after reading so many other similar complaints, I know that they just conned me down there for the CDL tuition and to see if they could get me to sign a lease. As I said before; this experience was like something right out of the “Grapes of Wrath” movie. Times are hard; and all of the people I met (from all over the country) were clearly desperate. CR England is the big corrupt company in a small probably corrupted Texas town entrapping the poorest and most desperate people…people who are just looking for honest work. Now watch for the CR England damage control responders in action as they reply to my complaint…they often pose as former satisfied students who dispute the claims; or they accuse the complainer of being bitter due to having had a dirty drug test, or that they were too wimpy, lazy, etc… Here are some other CR England CDL School SCAM Reports: 1. A woman student says she was raped by an instructor. 2. Local police work for CR ENGLAND as the interrogators – THIS CREATS A MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST with those who go to the school and who may want to file charges (as in the rape case). |
| 6. Written by Ronald, on 13-11-2009 00:08 This is true the recuiters lie you are almost forced to lease a truck but don't do it!! The Teams will get priority dispatch over the lease operators. So if you lease expect to be doing alot of sitting while the Teams go out ahead of you!! Cr knows with team the truck is going 22hrs out of 24 with a lease that guy works 11 then down 10hrs!! Also they don't tell you that the .30 cents a mile is split between the 2 drivers so say during your 11hrs you make it 1000 miles you would get $150.00 for that or $15 bucks an hour. You could make more driving a Greyhound bus!!! plus you will be gone 3weeks out of the month forget family time and someone else can handle your wife or girlfriend while you are out of town. Don't go to Cr england its a waste of time bus you there when you could ride a plane for the same money thats a joke!!! |
| 7. Written by john, on 25-10-2009 23:41 NEED QUESTIONS ANWSERED BEFORE I GO TO THE SCHOOL...question....Im going to cr england training I know the class is like 16 days so after the class is done to you get to go home or you start your 30days on the road with a trainer, then I heard you leave again to do 30 days with a lease operator..when do you get to go home? Another question if you live in another state what do you do with the truck on your days off how does that work???? |
| 8. Written by lynn, on 14-09-2009 12:10 tell me more my spouse is in tx now |
| 9. Written by Jeremy Howard, on 08-09-2009 21:17 i WAS one of those poor hungry tired students till about two months ago my phase 2 trainer was working with the heartless ones in slc and set me up by telling me he was quiting just to get me off his truck one i was off that truck i was at cr englands mercy or lack of he told them i was unsafe and made numerous false acusations in turn i was given a road evaluation wich was fixed i was told false information during the test and was so scared knowing my livelyhood and family were depending on me to being home money i cliped one curb on the very last turn coming back to the slc school entrance and was automaticly failed then later that afternoon terminated no 2nd chance at all just a bus ticket home with not enough experience to get hired by a another company and no other so called cdl mill is interested in a student driver with the economy like it is and to add insult to innjury i just recieved a book of payments to the loan company for a student loan to a driving school whos diploma isnt recognized by anyone else in the trucking industry id be more then happy to file a class action suit if i had the money and the amut of people it would take to bring down this corprate tyrant who as ive seen has ruined so many lives |
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